If you haven't read the book, or the whole series, then
I want a very good reason why not, written out in triplicate and signed by your
Mum! This week the links to the other posts can be found at Over The Effing Rainbow.
This week we read through to the end of the book,
which is the end of the series . . . Wailey! Wailey! Wailey! :(
1. Well,
now. It seems Letitia is much more than just a snivelly 'princess in the
tower'... What do you think of the way she handles the ghosts at Keepsake Hall?
It seems like she has been doing some seriously
good witching, even though she has not had any formal training. I find this rather
impressive.
One of the things that I really love about Sir
Terry is that he always makes his characters three-dimensional. Rather than
giving us a stereotypical weeping drip to hate, Letitia is actually a very
caring person who usually tries to do the right thing. So, she made a very bad
mistake because of her love for Roland and her jealousy of his relationship
with Tiffany, but she tried very hard to make amends and was certainly
devastated by the damage that she had caused. We have all been young and in
love, so I think we can overlook her stupidity in this one case, especially as
she was so instrumental in resolving the issue. I was particularly impressed by
her running out into the night to rescue poor, drunken Roland from the pigsty.
I believe that she will make a fine witch, if she is not too busy using all
that helpful advice from Nanny Ogg.
2. "We
do right, we don't do nice..." Miss Smith turns up again - in another
unusual way - and she's got some eye-opening words for Tiffany here... Do you
agree that Tiffany's got to grow up a little more still, or should she just ask
for help with the Cunning Man?
I think the most important lesson we learn as we
grow into adulthood is that we have to be able to do things for and by
ourselves. This true independence is what marks the end of childhood. I think
that Tiffany has gone a very long way towards it by the beginning of this book,
but she is still aware that the older witches are there, as back up, if she
needs them. It is not that she does not want to do things by herself, but that
she has always felt that safety net in the back of her head. This has allowed
her to be totally fearless in her approach to the world, but until now she has
never had to consciously stand totally alone and take charge. The Feegles
helped her against the Fairy Queen, and then Granny Weatherwax intervened when
she had defeated the Hiver, bringing her back to the world of the living, and
later sent the Feegles to get Roland and rescue the Summer Lady. This time
Tiffany has to do everything for herself, with no other witch to help her.
I love the way that the older witches give her
support and advice without telling her what to do. They convey their total
confidence in her ability to triumph without being terribly specific and so
give her the self-confidence to make her own plan. This is a very powerful way
of enabling a young person and shows their great wisdom and understanding of
the human mind.
3. Preston
earns even more trust from Tiffany, and she makes an interesting point about
whether or not the Cunning Man will be dangerous to him... Do you think the two
of them can take him on?
I find Preston very funny and endearing. I love his
loquaciousness, blue-sky thinking and how Tiffany responds to finally finding
an intellectual equal on the Chalk. I sincerely hope that she grabs him before
some other woman sees what a catch he is!
I thought her judgment that he would be immune to
the Cunning Man was pretty spot on because there does not seem to be a single
dark thought in his head. I do not want to belabor my point, but this will also
make him a good partner for Tiffany who has to deal with some pretty dark
things at times and who can get a little negative in her thinking. I think that
together these two could do anything at all, so the Cunning Man has no chance
to defeat them.
4. Speaking
of taking on the Cunning Man, he's getting closer - and in a very alarming way.
This is certainly different, and it's keeping Mrs Proust involved. Do you think
she might be the exception to the "kindly assistance" rule among
witches?
I guess that different witches have to work in
different ways, depending on their own skills and the people that they assist.
It seems pretty obvious that a lot of people in Ankh Morpork know that she is
actually a witch, but they turn a blind eye to her profession because it is not
very fashionable. She also has a lot less of the usual witching to do because
there is a lot less livestock in the city and a lot more people who can help
themselves. I am quite sure that most people are living in crowded conditions,
so that there is usually someone to help with the infants, geriatrics and the
infirm. There are probably fewer disputes about who owns a specific pig and
there will be lots of cheery old ladies who are happy to boil water and help to
birth babies.
I can only assume that Mrs Proust keeps herself
busy by helping all the other witches in the world by providing their Boffo,
rather than doing the usual mundane witching in her neighborhood. However, she
is certainly very much in evidence when the going gets tough. She has no
hesitation in responding to the warder’s request to visit the prison and in
warning Tiffany of the Cunning Man’s new body.
5. O-ho, so
the Duchess has a secret of her own... Are you surprised?
Not at all, as it is fairly common for people from
low origins to try to forget where they came from (*cough, Annagramma, *cough).
I suppose we could also forgive her for being influenced by the Cunning Man and
also for wanting everything done properly for her daughter. She seems to have
had an encounter with Mrs Proust before, which might explain her animosity
towards witches when we first meet her, or perhaps she is simply frightened
that Tiffany will see through her facade with her witchy powers. As with
Letitia, she is revealed to be fairly decent in the end rather than being the
archetypal evil stepmother from fairy tale.
6. Tiffany
defeats the Cunning Man! What did you make of this scene?
I was a little surprised that it was
such a simple thing to defeat him. After all the hints about the hare running
in to the flames I did not expect it to be quite so straightforward. However,
there was a challenge in Tiffany’s need to overcome her own fear and also to
keep her mind focused so that he could not take over her body. I had predicted
that Tiffany would basically outsmart the Cunning Man not only because that has
been a repeated motif in this series, but also because he is so blinkered by
his own rigid thinking. He would never think of risking his body in such a way
and so she has a major advantage over him. Somehow I feel that there is an
underlying message here about self-righteous and dogmatic thinking by certain
religious people and how it will always be defeated by the freethinking, good at
heart, atheist, but I might be wrong.
In the end, there was a very
ritualistic feel to it, as it seemed to mimic the rites of passage that many
cultures use to mark a child’s growth into adulthood. Tiffany took direct
control of her own life and faced down her fears of inadequacy by taking a leap
of faith in herself, believing that she had come to the right conclusion. That
she also married Letitia and Roland at the same time, shedding her attachment
to him during the process, added to the feeling of cleansing and a new
beginning.
Other
Thoughts
This has been my favorite book of the
series because it has challenged so many of our assumptions about this world.
It has been dark and unpleasant, with some genuinely horrible moments, but it
has also shown us some wonderful character work and overturned our
understanding of some of the long-standing players. To see Rob Anybody so
heartbroken at the thought of his mound being attacked was so stunning because
it went against everything that we had come to expect from the Big Man. The
development that we saw in Roland, in particular, was very rewarding because of
it was unexpected and yet so natural and truthful. It was good to see that he
was also forced to grow up and become a man.
All together now! “Tiffany and
Preston, sitting in a tree, discussing the philosophical difference between
surgery and witching, and arguing about which is most efficacious in the
treatment of a limping sheep!” :D
Sue, some great answers here! I agree that this has been my favourite of the series also. I liked that things came together so well at the end and there was a resolution for everything.
ReplyDeleteI think Letitia will make a great witch - she made a mistake because she felt insecure and that's something she needs to work on but otherwise I saw a different side to her when she was on her home ground.
Like you I think Tiffany needed to sort this by herself, especially because she was on her own patch and it almost had a coming of age ceremony feel to it. I liked that a lot of the witches gathered at the end - they're not as tough as old boots as they like to make out.
Preston is such a good character - he's not at all phased by anything that Tiffany says or does and is quite capable of holding his own which makes him perfect for her.
Yes, the Duchess had a secret - but it wasn't that bad really! Again, like the witches, seeing her home revealed a different side to her nature and one that was much easier to like.
Now you mention it - it did seem easy to defeat the Cunning Man (clearly not as cunning as everyone likes to think). I liked the use of the jumping the flames to marry the couple - can't say I would have enjoyed that particular ceremony myself but it was intriguing to read.
Lynn :D
Letitia seems to have that instinct to help people with a minimum of fuss that is a witch's primary requirement, so I'm sure that she will do a lot of good now that she feels secure.
ReplyDeleteI liked the way the older witches were there to give moral support and to clear up the mess if needed - it sort of answers the question that Preston asked "Who watches the watchers?". Witching is a very solitary profession, but they do all keep an eye out for each other, so the cackling is kept to a bare minimum! :D
I suspect that he gave himself the name . . .
Haha, yes, I never thought of that. Henceforth I shall be known as 'the incredibly intelligent and sometimes droll blogger formerly known as Lynn' ahem, or probably more precisely, 'the blogger who takes 1001 guesses before finally landing on the correct answer by pure coincidence' - or is that a tad over the top. I dunno. What do you think - does it really work?
ReplyDeleteLynn :D
It's a bit long, but I say "Go for it!" :D
DeleteSorry I'm late to the party - the dog ate all my book read along reminders. He had indigestion for a week!
ReplyDeleteHaha! Yes, all that great advice from Nanny Ogg! How I would love to hear some of her advice, even though I am a happily married woman. The entertainment value of her stories alone would be priceless.
Preston & Tiffany make a good match. Even if they never become a couple, they are a formidable team against whatever badassery idiot walks onto their Chalk.
I like that you point out that the Duchess is not the only one who has tried to forget her 'low' origins - and looked the sillier for it later.
Haha! I love your little rhyme there at the end. You threw in 'efficacious'. Nice!
If I had 10 cents for every time a pupil said that a dog ate their homework! :D
DeleteI see Nanny Ogg as a naughtier version of Dr Ruth (if you remember her). Perhaps she should write Fifty Shades of Black!!!
Thank you - I am always trying to find ways to use long words - it makes me look brainy! :D