This week we read through to the end of Chapter 37
– next week we will read the remaining chapters and reach the end of the series.
Before I answer Eivind’s questions I just need to
get something off my chest:
ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(deep breath)
ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy epic chapters, Batman! I have never before
read a single chapter that has included so much action and mayhem, such death
and destruction. It had everything: despair and triumph, bitter loss and the
sweet promise of hope! I doubt that I will ever read another chapter that can
match this for its complete and utter epicness!
And now on to the questions . . .
1.
What did you think of the structure? That is, one huge chapter with no
breathers. Was it appropriate for the battle, or did you find the
difference from before jarring?
It certainly left me feeling as exhausted and
breathless as those fortunate enough to survive into chapter 38. The use of
many points of view and such short sections made it very difficult for me to
stop reading last night so that I could go to bed! This was the page-turning
chapter to rule them all: and I imagine that very few writers would risk this
structure for fear of their readers throwing the book away in disgust. However,
I think that it was very appropriate for the prelude to the climax of the
series. We were shown just about every important action and managed to touch
base with quite a few characters before they met their ends, which was rather
touching when they had happy thoughts or chose brave and selfless courses of
action.
Rather than finding this different from the rest of
the series, I felt that it was as if Mr Sanderson had turned the volume up from
something comfortable to an eardrum imploding level. It was a similar structure
to the one we are accustomed to, only writ large. But this is the End Of The
World, so it is supposed to be a little more dramatic than normal. It certainly
conveyed the desperation and despair seeping through the armies of the Light as
their end becomes inevitable . . .
2.
Tuon orchestrates a fight with Mat, and decides to return only after some
careful deliberations. Ice-cold gamble or foolhardy move by Mat? Am
I the only one who thinks the Seanchan have gotten away with very little
fighting so far?
This was certainly a gamble, and it is not clear
that the return of the Seanchan will seal the win for the force of light,
unless Lan truly has done for Demandred. I was rather surprised that Moghedien
fell for this ruse, as I thought she might suspect that it was a set up. But,
of course, she is biased by her own personality: she would abandon a failing
fight in order to save her own skin in the blink of an eye, so she accepts
Tuon’s bluff as a reasonable action. It was just about the only way that Mat
could use the enemy spy to his own advantage without alerting her to his
knowledge of her existence.
Yep: the Ever Victorious Army is starting to look
like a massively unearned title at this point. Not only has the branches of it
left behind at home fallen to rebellion and civil war, but also their showing
in Randland has been patchy at best. They have not proven to be quite as epic
in this battle as I had hoped they would be. Perhaps it is all weird haircuts
and painted fingernails with very little to back up their sense of superiority.
3.
Androl and Pevara spend much of the battle behind enemy lines to recover the
seals, practicing telepathy and other fascinating effects. Why not
another lava trick? Logain also challenge Demandred. What do you
think of his motivations? Where will his glory come from?
I guess a giant flow of lava would be a little
inaccurate in targeting only Taim, and it might just damage the Seals a little
bit . . . or make them rather difficult to recover later! :D
Androl and Pevara are rapidly becoming my highest
ranked characters for further books in the series: they are so entertaining!
They also seem to be rewriting the rule book with their double Bonding
connection, which I am quite sure will prove helpful in the end. I was rather
sad that Androl did not get the chance to Gateway Taim into oblivion, but his
slight of hand theft of the Seals did make me chuckle quite a bit. I am quite
sure that Taim was furious when he discovered that they were missing . . . oh
dear, let me reach for my tiny violin! :D
Logain’s motivations seem to be rather mudded at
the moment. He went after Demandred with some wild idea of grabbing his scepter
and then making every one bow down before his awesomeness. This was the one case
where I was actually cheering on Demandred, as I was not sure that Logain
winning the duel would be a good idea. It does not look like he has much of a
chance of glory at the moment, but there is still time for him to validate our
trust in him.
4. In
the meantime, Rand and the Dark One exchange visions for the future. What
do you think of all these? Can Rand really kill the Dark One now?
These have been rather interesting in their variety
and been genuinely intriguing and surprising. They have certainly made me think
about the role of evil with regards to personal freedom and the implications of
trying to remove it from the universe. It seems as if the Dark One has a very
good understanding of Rand’s personality and weaknesses, some of which Demandred
has commented on in his various ramblings. I was most interested to see that
the Dark One offered Rand the chance at oblivion: I wondered if this was a
genuine proposal or simply a trick. If it was genuine, it suggests that the
Dark One is seriously worried about Rand’s ability to defeat him, although it
appears to be highly unlikely at the moment.
From what we have seen I am not sure that killing
the Dark One is either possible or desirable. Whilst I understand that what we
are seeing is heavily biased by the Dark One’s attempts to defeat Rand, I do
worry that a total lack of temptation removes the need for people to choose to
do good rather than evil. We have seen so many examples of bravery and
self-sacrifice in this chapter that I wonder if Mr Sanderson also sees the
threat of Evil as something of a necessity. Having said that, I am sure that
Rand will be victorious, but I have no concept of how he will do it.
5.
Some choose not to fight for various reasons. What do you think of Ila's
thoughts on violence, now, at the Last Battle? Did you expect the
gai'shain to fight? Any difference between them and the reluctant
mercenaries from the prologue?
I find the whole concept of the Way of the Leaf
very interesting because it shows a strength of commitment that I find
difficult to understand. In certain situations I can see how non-violence is
actually effective, as we have seen in peaceful demonstrations throughout human
history. However, it will only work if your opposition has a moral compass and will
finally stop massacring you because they feel bad about it. The Dark One and
his minions have no compassion and will not stop killing any humans that they
encounter: they simply see pacifists as easy targets, just as they view the
young, elderly and infirm. When the Way of the Leaf was at its most prevalent
mankind was living in a time of enlightened peace: I do not think that it is
particularly appropriate in the Last Battle.
However, I can respect the Tinkers’ dedication to
their beliefs and commend them for offering aid to those who are willing to
fight. I wonder if the Last Battle will cause more to question their
willingness to allow others to die to protect them. It would certainly be
expected that many would have their faith shaken by what they witness at
Merrilor, and it could cause a dramatic change in their society.
The gai’shain
may be a rather different case. Their refusal to fight is based upon ideas of
honor rather than pacifism, but, again, they are applying a societal protocol
that does not fit this situation. The Shadow has no honor and deserves to be
shown no respect. Also, they will surely gain much dishonor if they stand aside
and allow the world to end when they could have joined the defense, which might
persuade them to postpone their term of servitude for a day or so. If they
still refuse to see sense I would suggest that they have to endure a few
seconds of Sorilea’s very worst evil stare . . . that should have them grabbing
spear in no time at all!
Reluctant mercenaries are either cowards or very
sensible, depending upon your point of view. I can see how many people would be
unwilling to throw themselves into a hopeless fight, but I can also understand
the irritation of the people who realize that every able body needs to be
fighting on the battlefield.
6.
Faile and Co. make it to the battle, only to be betrayed by Aravine. Do
you think anyone other than Olver made it out (Faile, especially)? What
did you think of Bela's heroic death? Where does the Horn go from here?
Whilst I have always found Faile to be a very
irritating character, I do like Perrin, so I hope she survives for his sake.
Also, I think she is now the Queen of Saldaea after Tenobia and her father’s
deaths, so she does have a role to play in the reconstruction after the Light
prevails.
I am certain that Vanin and Harnan will survive as
they seem to be particularly indestructible. I could almost believe that some
of Mat’s ‘luck’ has attached itself to them! I loved the way that they arrived
through the Gateway so much earlier and were trying to create mayhem in the
enemy camp: Mat would be so proud of them! Also, I knew that they were not
Darkfriends, although Aravine was a total surprise.
Olver will obviously blow the Horn and become a
great hero of legend surrounded by large-bosomed ladies for the rest of his
life. Good luck to the little scamp! :D
Being the irrational animal lover that I am, I was
overjoyed with Bela’s return and her miraculous conversion into a super-horse.
Then Mr Sanderson killed her and I burst into tears . . . I could go off
certain authors . . . :(
7.
Gawyn, Galad and Lan all decide to challenge Demandred. Gawyn pays the
ultimate price: foolish move, or a reasonable gamble to remove the most
dangerous enemy on the field? Galad tries to avenge him, and fails, only
for Lan to do the deed and finally fulfil his series-long death wish.
What do you think of these events?
Well, we could all see that Gawyn was going to come
to a bad end once we knew that he had triggered one of the rings. I had hoped
that some of Egwene’s good sense might have rubbed off on him, but his fate was
sealed from that moment on. Following his ‘thinking’ on this challenge does not
make me any more inclined to think of his death as a ‘reasonable gamble’. He
must have known that his death would incapacitate Egwene, and thus weaken the
forces of Light dramatically. His action was mostly driven by a selfish need to
be important and show off his prowess, with very little thought of the
consequences of his failure or even his chances of accomplishing his goal. I
suppose that the use of the rings might have affected his thinking, but his
pervious idiocy makes me disinclined to be generous to him.
I thought that Galad had a seriously good chance of
succeeding. We know that he was always supposed to be more skilled than Gawyn,
and much more clear in his thinking. I also think that there are subtle hints
that he might be able to Channel, or at least learn to. Both here and in his
defeat of Eamon Valda, we see him attaining a form of the void that seems
remarkably similar to that reached by Rand. Of course, we have now seen Tam and
Lan doing something very similar, so I might be over-reaching here, but he is
related to both Rand and Elayne . . .
Of course, if anyone was going to finally succeed
it had to be Lan, Mat, Perrin or possibly even Loial, though I thought Androl
might have had a go with a Gateway to something nasty. I loved the imagery of
the Two Rivers archers lighting his way and clearing a path through the
Trollocs: I was almost cheering by this point! I was pleased that Mandarb
managed to get in some badass horse fighting without dying . . . unlike poor
Bela . . . grumble, grumble, grumble . . . I am so dumb that I did not even
predict the Sheathing the Sword move that Lan would employ, even though he
taught Rand about it right at the beginning of the series. By the way, he will
most certainly NOT die: can you imagine Nynaeve letting him get away from her
that easily! :D
8.
Egwene, having lost her warder and husband, slays M'Hael (WITH a sa'angreal)
and then lays waste to the Sharans, and kills herself, Lews Therin style.
Did you expect Egwene to be the first out of the original crew? Was her fate
sealed already when Gawyn died? What will her legacy be, as
Amyrlin? And what of this new weave---the Flame of Tar Valon?
I did not see this coming, although her despair did
seem to be pushing her beyond the bounds of common sense. Of course, her actions
were probably necessary and the outcome was a massive blow to the Shadow. Would
the forces of Light be in a stronger position if she were still alive?
Possibly, but her death was a rather neat balance to that of Taim. I did enjoy
his horror as she beat him into submission and then anti-balefired him out of
existence. I suspect that she might possibly have recovered from her grief over
Gawyn’s loss, what with her being as stubborn as a rock and all that, so I did
not see her death as inevitable though her sacrifice was nowhere near as
upsetting as Bela’s death . . . I am not going to forgive you for that one for
a very long time, Mr Sanderson!
Whilst the Flame of Tar Valon was very impressive,
it did leave me with a few questions. Why did Taim’s death not reverse the
effects of the previous balefire strikes and revive many of the Forces of
Light? Why did Demandred survive it, even though he probably counts as one who
had ‘given himself over to the Shadow’? How was Leilwin supposed to find Logain
and get the Seals from him in time to break them when Egwene released the
Flame? I do not know if these questions will be answered in the remaining
chapters, but I do hope so because they are annoying me.
9.
Elayne, having suffered huge losses for the whole battle, is taken by Mellar,
threatening to cut her babies out. What will come of this? Is
Birgitte now permanently dead, or is she just waiting on the other side for the
Horn to blow?
It was too much to hope that Mellar had
unfortunately died of an infected paper cut, but I had rather hoped that he
would not reappear to cause more mayhem. I have no idea what the Dark One plans
to do with the Randlings, but I doubt that it is anything good . . . perhaps he
plans to file their teeth and give them nice red veils . . .
Obviously, Elayne will be saved by someone,
although the list of potential candidates for savior is woefully short at the
moment. Unless someone completely unexpected suddenly steps into the breach,
such as Thom, who has been noticeably absent throughout this whole mess, my
guess is that Birgitte’s death came at a very, very opportune moment. We now
know that Olver is going to blow the Horn out of sheer desperation, and her
death will allow her to answer its call to action. I suspect that she might
feel a slight inclination to kill Mellar once she reappears . . . This will
also allow her to rejoin Gaidal and regain her memories, which seems like an
appropriate end for her story arc.
10. Anything
else you feel I missed? Ogier? Dragons? The beautiful
Shendla? Demandred's approach to the battle? All the minor deaths:
Hurin, Mr. and Mrs. Bashere, Bryne and, dare I say Siuan? Min's
spy-hunting? Leilwin?
So much has happened this week that it is difficult
to get a grasp of what else I want to comment about.
Loial going to help Lan, even though he now thinks
that he will never get the chance to write his book: heartbreaking!
Talmanes and his merry band: will they be able to
do anything useful with the hastily patched together Dragons?
Demandred’s complete fixation with the one person
who is very obviously NOT taking part in the battle: a full day later and he is
still trying to taunt Rand into facing him! What a lunatic! :D
I thought that Hurin and the Basheres deserved
slightly more than a minor footnote, but the lack of detail added to the shock
that their deaths dealt to both us and Rand.
I thought that Siuan’s death was somehow fitting.
She made a conscious decision to abandon her own safety in order to do what
needed to be done: something that proves that she was truly a Blue. Poor Gareth
could never have lived an hour without her.
During the attack on the Seanchan command tent I
was rather distracted by all the excessive clothing in evidence. Poor Min could
hardly move for all the silk and Tuon had her quick release dress on. It does
rather make me wonder why they do not have slightly more practical dress
uniforms for times of war.
One thing that I did like to see was the
unification of the Tower, or should I say TowerS. We know that it is common for
people to be united against a common enemy, but so many prejudices were
abandoned during this battle that I am hopeful that real change can occur in
the aftermath. I am sure that Cadsuane will be cross that she missed all this
excitement!
Yeah any violin for Taim would definitely be minuscule. As in eveb the One Power would have a hard time playing it. I agree with your assessment of Ila/gai'shain/mercenaries. I've always liked and respected Ila and her husband in previous books, but I was pretty annoyed with her here. Yeah I loved that Tam had the Two Rivers archers help Lan as well. And you're right: if Lan dies, Nynaeve will revive him and then kill him for having the audacity to die on her. :D Mellar definitely needs to die by an infected paper cut. Even an infected grolm bite would be too honorable for him. And poor Elayne. I can't imagine the horror of someone telling you they're going to cut your babies from your womb. *shudders* I agree. So much good stuff in this chapter, there's just no way to address all of it!
ReplyDeleteThe amount of good stuff this week makes me a little worried that next week will be an anticlimax :(
DeleteLet me try.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Demandred survive it, even though he probably counts as one who had ‘given himself over to the Shadow’?
The effects were local. Demandred was way over on the other side of the heights at the time.
How was Leilwin supposed to find Logain and get the Seals from him in time to break them when Egwene released the Flame?
The light that Egwene was talking about is not the light that she released when she died. It is still to come, and Leilwin has time.
I was probably reading too quickly to have got the geography set in my mind. I am rather disappointed that Egwene didn't manage to kill Demandred and that there must still be some Sharan channelers alive . . . but I suppose it adds to the excitement for next week! :D
DeletePhew! I worry that Logain is going to be stubborn, so that is a relief!
Haha! Yes, I think the Seanchan fashion sense (and the honor required to maintain hair & nails) is holding them back from being truly the Ever Victorious Army.
ReplyDeleteGood thoughts on the noncombatants. In my experience, even those dedicated to nonviolence tend to change their mind swiftly, or react with out thinking, when violence throws a punch their way or wings sword in the directions of a loved one.
It would be awesome if Olver gets to be the one to blow the Horn. I know there has been some chit chat about whether or not Mat's death by and resurrection by Rand's balefire counts...I am not certain. Everyone, including Mat, seem to think he is the one still attached to the Horn.
Totally agree with you about Bela. Our neighbor, years ago, lost one of his mammoth donkeys to illness. We were also close to both donkeys (and later adopted and still have the second) so it was hard on all of us. When Bela died, it really stirred up those emotions.
Yes, Lan's epic ride up to Demandred, with the Two Rivers archers lighting the way, was incredibly epic. I could hear the music in the background. One of the best scenes of the series!
I am no longer sure how Balefire works. I don't know why Taim's death didn't reverse the effects of his most recent Balefirings.