tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post7258210065826132790..comments2023-05-17T05:51:40.714-04:00Comments on Coffee, Cookies and Chili Peppers: Read Along of Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson Part 3Looks-Mostly-Harmlesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00918651503213054373noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-26703048490195540602012-04-27T14:16:08.646-04:002012-04-27T14:16:08.646-04:00Doh! You are right, they are older than I thought!...Doh! You are right, they are older than I thought! That changes things a bit . . . though you could be right that this is a continuation of earlier behavior. SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-71272341294108330122012-04-27T09:48:28.918-04:002012-04-27T09:48:28.918-04:00All teenagers rebel.....But like these guys are ea...All teenagers rebel.....But like these guys are early 20s? Do you think their on-going rebellion against the parents has been so unsuccessful that they have carried it into their early manhoods? Just thinking out loud.... Maybe part kid rebellion - like they have been doing it for so long they don't know how to stop and maybe it will morph into something useful. Nrlymrtlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-63332469337215472902012-04-25T17:37:14.604-04:002012-04-25T17:37:14.604-04:00Yeah, like 'it's so unfair! you ruined my ...Yeah, like 'it's so unfair! you ruined my life'. Lol.<br />Lynn :DLynn-williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-23835255945215945432012-04-25T17:36:14.358-04:002012-04-25T17:36:14.358-04:00The idea of equality could be a bit of a shock to ...The idea of equality could be a bit of a shock to them, but they probably haven't really thought of it. It seems like they are rebelling in small ways, but not doing anything very dramatic to annoy their parents, like NOT going to the balls.SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-10639013106837666062012-04-25T17:32:32.122-04:002012-04-25T17:32:32.122-04:00I'm still convinced that the diary sections ar...I'm still convinced that the diary sections are a warning to us about what could happen to Kel, so hopefully he won't do whatever it was that turned the Lord Ruler into an evil megalomaniac.<br /><br />I just have this image of Elend's pals all sitting around trying to solve all the world's problems whilst moaning about how their parents don't understand them! :DSueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-67598496122467679812012-04-25T17:32:09.627-04:002012-04-25T17:32:09.627-04:00It seems like he has started to see them as indivi...It seems like he has started to see them as individuals and so feels more responsible for them. It is hard to imagine losing so many men and still being able to pull a plan together, but who knows?SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-68455062854236430552012-04-25T17:31:57.864-04:002012-04-25T17:31:57.864-04:00Why, thank you! :)
You are right about the Ruler:...Why, thank you! :)<br /><br />You are right about the Ruler: he is what historians call an 'unreliable witness'. He could very easily think that he is a lovely chap, and so writes about himself that way. I am quite sure that Hitler didn't realize that he was evil.<br /><br />I guess the heirs might be disposed of if there are other siblings available, although the low birth rate amongst the nobles might be a problem there. The idea of them working behind the scenes seems much more possible, assuming that they don't just wet their pants when they find out about the rebellion! :D<br /><br />I am beginning to think that we will have to wait until the later books to get a final answer.SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-87053266597385523052012-04-25T17:17:43.906-04:002012-04-25T17:17:43.906-04:00True: they probably think that they can continue m...True: they probably think that they can continue much the same as they are whilst the skaa have much better conditions than before. This is not a bad wish in itself, but might not be very possible.SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-983613996383133182012-04-25T17:16:10.538-04:002012-04-25T17:16:10.538-04:00It will be interesting to discover whether the Lor...It will be interesting to discover whether the Lord Ruler's 'evilness' began as soon as he took power or developed slowly over time. Maybe he had to do something when he killed the previous ruler that changed him.<br /><br />I have serious doubts about Elend's pals and their usefulness, though it would be nice to think that some of the nobles want to improve things.SueCCCPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-79542452567919297272012-04-25T16:11:47.818-04:002012-04-25T16:11:47.818-04:00I"m not sure this particular group of nobles ...I"m not sure this particular group of nobles wants to really change things THAT much. I could see them maybe wanting fairer working conditions for the skaa, or to stop the rapes/murders, but I doubt they'd want to undo the whole social system and make everyone equal. And I think anything less than equality is not something Kelsier - or the others - would be interested in.Amandahttp://agignac2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-79942589143068894312012-04-25T15:04:49.462-04:002012-04-25T15:04:49.462-04:00You're right actually - we have found out a li...You're right actually - we have found out a little more about the Lord Ruler, and whilst this might be a bit illuminating in certain respects, as it really changed my opinion of him? Nope, he's still a monster. At the end of the day, if you were one of the Skaa would you read that book and think 'oh well, that changes things then, I can see where he's coming from now'. No you wouldn't. So, good point.<br />I like your point about Elend and his friends being like a teenage rebellion - it is sort of how they come across. Just reading and talking in quiet corners. They're not exactly planning for anything real and they do come across as a bit incautious!<br />Lynn :DLynn-williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-31260446050342637152012-04-25T13:35:13.729-04:002012-04-25T13:35:13.729-04:00I think that Kelsier feels a sense of responsibili...I think that Kelsier feels a sense of responsibility toward his men; now that his army has been decimated, he's going to feel like he has something to prove and that he owes it to the survivors to succeed. I'm curious about what shape his plan is going to take.Grace Troxelhttp://twitter.com/BookWithoutPicsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-6043619245612042462012-04-25T12:47:59.464-04:002012-04-25T12:47:59.464-04:00It is okay to feel smug once in awhile, kudos to y...It is okay to feel smug once in awhile, kudos to you! :)<br /><br />The jury is still out for me about how decent the Lord Ruler was. I'm remaining open-minded about that though.<br /><br />What is also interesting about the nobles possibly rebelling is that they may be the heirs but the are not in power in their Houses at this point, so it would/will be interesting to see how much impact they might be able to have if they did rebel in earnest. Would they quickly be cut off and tossed out of their respective Houses or would they be more manipulative, working behind the scenes and covertly from positions of wealth and power?<br /><br />I'm not sure this early in the book that we have any clear picture of what true 'success' might be, for the rebellion and for individual characters. There remains a great deal of story left to be told and as things unravel I suspect that priorities will change, ideals and plans will be reassessed, and we the readers will be taken on a wild ride.Carl Vincentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-33648936501645701112012-04-25T11:51:10.412-04:002012-04-25T11:51:10.412-04:00While I can see Elend and his fellow nobles seeing...While I can see Elend and his fellow nobles seeing a rebellion as an interesting idea, I think that they would be surprised at what the reality of it would entail. It might mean they'd have to work for a living like the skaa should the Lord Ruler actually fall. <br /><br />I wonder if Sanderson will explore this as the novels continue. Michaelhttp://nashvillebookworm.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3936635192759786622.post-40081029277057333592012-04-25T11:47:58.639-04:002012-04-25T11:47:58.639-04:00I have a hard time understanding how a decent blok...I have a hard time understanding how a decent bloke can end up being an evil dictator. But the quotes are revealing. I'm just curious how the Lord Ruler became cruel...what happened to him? Elend and his group sound cool, but how dedicated would they be when the trouble starts. It is easier to say you want to make changes instead of actually doing it. TBMnoreply@blogger.com